We're all busy doing our best to boycott U.S. products. I can't buy Special K cereal anymore, because it's made in the U.S. by Kellogg's. But I'm still buying Shreddies, which is made in Niagara Falls, Ontario. Even that's a grey area, since Shreddies is owned by Post, a big American company. Should I be boycotting it? Probably. However, the disturbing thing is that I'm paying for my carefully-curated basket of Canadian groceries with my MasterCard.
If we really want to avoid U.S. products, we can't just vet the things we are buying. We also need to be careful about how we are doing our buying. Our Canadian credit cards are basically made-in-U.S. goods. They rely on the U.S-based Visa or MasterCard networks for processing. Each credit card transaction you make generates a few cents in revenue for these two American mega-corporations. It doesn't sound like much, but when multiplied by millions of Canadians using their cards every day, it adds up. Vigilant Canadians shouldn't be using them.
Canadians who want to boycott American card networks have two options. Go back to paying with cash, which is 100% Canadian. Or transact with your debit card. Debit card transactions are routed via the made-in-Canada Interac debit network.*
We're lucky to have a domestic debit card option. Our European friends are in a worse position, since many European countries (Poland, Sweden, the Netherlands, Finland, and Austria) are entirely reliant on MasterCard and Visa for both debit and credit card transactions.
Unfortunately, going back to debit cards means doing without all of the consumer protection that credit cards offer in an online environment. Worse, you're giving up your credit card rewards or cash back. If you don't pay with your 2% cash back credit card, for instance, and use your debit card instead, which doesn't offer a reward, you're effectively losing out on $2 for every $100 you spend. This should illustrate to you, I hope, the golden shackles imposed on us by our U.S.-based credit cards. It's fairly easy to replace your American-grown tomatoes with Mexican ones or your U.S.-made car with a Japanese car. But networks, which tend towards monopolization, are not so easy to bypass.
Which gets us into the meatier issue of national sovereignty. The difficulty we all face boycotting the MasterCard and Visa networks reveals how Canada has let itself become over-reliant on these critical pieces of U.S financial infrastructure. My fear is that our neighbour's political leadership is only going to fall further into authoritarianism and belligerence, eventually making a play to slowly annex Canada—not by invasion, but by "Canshluss". If so, this will involve using our dependencies on U.S. systems, including the card networks, to extract concessions from us. "Canada, if you don't do x for me," says Trump in 2026, "we're TURNING OFF all your credit cards!"
In anticipation, we need to remove this particular financial dependency, quick. We're already safe when it comes to debit cards; we've got Interac. But we need the same independence for our credit cards. More specifically, we need to pursue an end-goal in which all Canadian credit cards are "co-badged". That means our credit cards would be able to use both the Visa/Mastercard card networks and Interac (or, if Interac can't be repurposed for credit cards, some other yet-to-be-built domestic credit card network). With co-badging, if your credit card payment can't be executed by Visa because of a Trump freeze order, at least the Canadian network will still process it.
This is how the French card system works. While much of Europe suffers from a massive dependency on MasterCard and Visa, France is unique in having built a 100% French card solution. The local Carte Bancaire (CB) network can process both French debit card transactions, like Interac can, but goes one step further by also handling French credit card purchases. Before paying for their groceries with a card, French card holders get to choose which network to use, the local one or the international one.
The incoming Carney government should move to co-sponsor a CB-style domestic credit card network along with the big banks (perhaps a simple upgrade to Interac will do?). All Canadian financial institutions that issue credit cards would be required to co-badge them so that Canadians can connect to this new network as well as Visa or MasterCard. Even if annexation never actually occurs, at least we've got a more robust card system in place to deal with outages arising from hacking or natural disasters.
Along with France, we can take inspiration from India, which introduced their Visa/MasterCard alternative, Rupay, in 2012. Thirteen years later, RuPay is now a genuine competitor with the American card networks. I can't believe I'm saying this, but we can also use Russia as a model, which was entirely dependent on Visa and MasterCard for card payments until it deployed its Mir card network in 2016—in the nick of time before Visa and MasterCard cut ties in 2022.
Europe will have to push harder, too. The EU has been trying to rid itself of its Visa and MasterCard addiction for over a decade now, without much luck. Its first attempt, the Euro Alliance of Payment Schemes, was abandoned in 2013. (In fact, one of the reasons the European Central Bank is exploring its own digital currency is to provide an alternative to the American card networks.) As Canada builds out its own domestic credit card workaround, we can learn from the European mistakes.
The U.S. is no longer a clear friend. Boycotting U.S. products is one thing. But if we truly want to reduce the external threat, we need to build our own card infrastructure—before it's too late.
* In-person debit payments are processed by the Interac network. However, online debit card transactions default to the Visa or MasterCard networks. While Interac does allow for online purchases, many retailers don't offer the option, and when they do, the checkout process requires the user to log into their online banking, which is more of a hassle than using a card.
DOGE has been poking around at Visa HQ. You all better hurry.
ReplyDeleteIn Poland, could the banks theoretically circumvent visa and mastercard by switching entirely to the BLIK code system they have developed? Or is that also underpinned by the same networks?
ReplyDeleteNot an expert on Poland, but it seems to be in the same situation as Canada. While BLIK (like Interac) provides consumers with an alternative to their U.S.-badged cards, as long as Poles continue to like cards (which seem to be very popular there) they'll remain yoked to the U.S. card networks. The solution for Poland would look like the one I suggested for Canada. All Polish credit and debit cards should have a European and/or Polish (maybe Blik, if technically possible?) badge on them.
DeleteBlik is completely independent from the card schemes. It runs on cards messaging system, but is tied directly to accounts and initiated solely by your mobile banking app. It can't be initiated by a card, but I imagine it could be retrofitted to a card since it runs on cards infrastructure.
Delete"Blik is completely independent from the card schemes. It runs on cards messaging system."
DeleteMaybe I'm not understanding this. How can Blik be completely independent from the card schemes if it runs on their messaging system?
Sorry I was imprecise, Blik has its own switch and only relies on ISO 8583 messaging system, the same one used for cards which made the integration easy for merchants.
DeleteAha, I understand now!
DeleteSee also Swish in Sweden etc and the EPI account-to-account scheme.
DeleteYep, great point. If Canadian credit card holders felt the pain of using their cards, and were no longer implicitly subsidized by debit card users and cash users, then we would all use Interac more and this would reduce our dependence on the Visa and MasterCard networks.
ReplyDeleteBut even in that scenario I'd still advocate for a home-grown credit card network. If we were to require credit card holders to bear the fee of using their cards, credit cards would be less popular but still fairly popular, and so they'd continue to provide Trump with leverage over us.
For another example of a domestic payment processing network, there's "mada" that's out of Saudi Arabia. The way they incentivized its use there is to have all merchants be required to have a card payment option available, and they've made its processing and POS fees be cheaper (possibly free(?)) relative to Visa and Mastercard, so much so that some shops (barbers, gas stations, small time grocery stores, etc) only accept the domestic network.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.mada.com.sa/en
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Payments_Network
Wasn't aware of Saudi's mada. Thanks, that's a fantastic example. To get a Canadian version off the ground, I suspect the same sort of adoption strategy will be necessary: all merchants (of a certain size) would have to accept it, like Canadian Tire and Loblaw.
DeleteQuebec in particular bans merchants from "surcharging" credit card users. Many "nationwide" merchants in turn use Quebec law as a national policy even if they can surcharge in the rest of Canada.
ReplyDeleteInterestingly a case can be made that Canada has more power over Amex than Visa and Mastercard. Amex in Canada essentially operates as a chartered bank under the authority of OSFI. Trump really can't order Amex Bank of Canada to do anything that can't be countermanded by OSFI and the Department of Finance. What the US can do is bifurcate the Amex "system" by eliminating interoprability between Amex Bank of Canada and Amex Bank N.A.(the parent US card issuer also a nationally chartered bank in the US)
ReplyDeleteAt one time the major Canadian banks did have more control over Visa and Amex when they owned the local subsidiaries of both in Canada but in the 2010s they sold off both to main Mastercard and Visa parent entities in the US.
ReplyDeleteHi Tim, interesting points about Amex in the previous comment and Visa in the comment. I'm wondering if that constitutes enough power to prevent card functionality from being turned off in Canada by Trump, though. In the case of Amex, its Canadian bank issues cards, but my guess is the actual Amex communications and clearing network is owned and controlled by its U.S. parent, and it is that network that's the point of fragility.
DeleteReally enjoyed this!!! I think there is a massive opportunity to build an "Onchain Amex" to service this need. Run transactions with stablecoins, pull credit from an onchain liquidity provider/pool, and you could create a new type of physical card (similar to Carte Bancaire card); maybe it still uses MC/V network to connect to merchant POSs initially, but then work towards integrating directly with POS providers to remove the need to use MC/V.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't a tech problem. It doesn't require fancy new gadgets like stablecoins. Just figure out how to set up the existing domestic debit card network, Interac, to work with credit cards. Should be pretty easy. Then use government pressure to solve the adoption problem by requiring all banks to issue co-badged cards. That's it.
DeleteIf this gets cash use up again then I am all for it.
ReplyDeleteAlso note that credit club card transaction processing centres are just so juicy as disruption targets.
Don't the increasingly common "Visa Debit" cards use the Visa network, and not Interac?
ReplyDeleteThose are co-badged with Visa and Interac. They use Interac's network for domestic in-person payments and Visa for international and online payments.
DeleteWould be also good as you go about this - and good luck to you! - to figure out how to build alternatives to Visa and Mastercard in Africa too, since both corporations are increasingly reaping huge profits from the trillions of transactions of the very poorest in Africa. Both also have own foundations that directly promote the digital payment option to the poor, and indirectly their own cards too, as if it was something good for them, when it really means they are increasingly losing control of their own financial systems, even in the very poorest villages and towns. This form of what some call digital colonialism is going to be the next big problem that Africa faces, especially if the 'ban cash' bodies like the 'Better than Cash Alliance', which Visa and Mastercard also help sponsor naturally, get their way.
ReplyDeleteChina Union Pay is probably the biggest alternative card scheme out there… You need something like that for Canada.
ReplyDeleteThere is another interesting observation: if you look what happened in Russia where overnight not only cards didn’t work anymore, you also need to rethink dependency of Swift. The US has too much of an influence so that is would make sense to also develop an own settlement network like UPI in India for Canada… Only then you are truly independent.
Great points and I think Australia should also launch a domestic credit scheme. I’m sitting here on a phone that is using GPS. I can pay cash or use account-account or our local eftpos debit scheme here in Australia, but I have zero alternatives for GPS. Nor does my car, the planes we fly in or ships that carry our goods.
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